Thursday, July 07, 2016

C101. Baer (p. 108). Old Brother Terrapin Gets Some Fish

This is Chase101.

Types
Motifs K0016.2 diving match: trickster eats food while dupe is under the water
K0341.6 thief persuades owner of goods to dive as a contest (Baer not sure if new item is justified)
H1543 contest in remaining underwater
Notes

Gerber and Harris have Kaffir story with Hlakanyana and a shepherd story, including the second dive to complete the trick. See Angolan mole and fox in Chatelain, and Lambrecht has turtle tricking hawk.

Clarke invokes H1543, and Baer finally acknowledges the huge problem: "One problem with using the Motif-Index to find distribution of a tale is that one frequently has to look in a number of locations for what turns out to be essentially the same motif. Additional motifs are useful to define nuances and differences; however, when the motif does not clarify such nuances, additional numbesr are merely confusing.

Dundes documents a southeastern Native American story of Orphan and the Origin of Corn, concluding: "There can be no question as to the African origin of this element in American Indian folklore."

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